Had enough of this site

Well.....
When I joined,I thought how nice to join a site where we all have something in common,despite the horridness of it,I thought at last a site with no nastiness.
Well... I wrote a cheery tongue in cheek story and some poetry,which lots pm'd me or commented how it cheered them taking their minds off cancer.
BUT.... in the chat room I was castigated by 2 women,in open chat,who complained that it wasnt what blogs were for.
I didnt agree,but removed anyway...
I tried to enjoy the chat but it wasnt to be..
I was asked by several for more poetry,at the time I wasn't in the mood,in fact was getting quite despondent with the site,yesterday and today,feeling quite emotional,my writing surfaced,and I posted 8 poems,with a comment by Thomas admin,that hes developing a poetry corner.
I now received a pm from Babscatt,that I am posting too much poetry,and she thinks I'm overdoing the blog.....
So I have removed my work,and will just carry on,writing for myself.
Cheerio,take care of yourselves,god bless
Paul
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sorry to hear your leaving us paul
oh paul, i'm sorry to hear yopur not happy here. I cant believe your getting grief from people on here. They sound like they own the site and you shouldnt take any notice of them hun. I always enjoted talking to u in chat room and your sense of humour is great love. Please dont leave us!! We are free here to say what we want on the blogs( within reason of course). Please dont be put off from expressing yourself, everybody else does hun!! Good luck with all your lovely poetry and I will miss you x
Love
Kim
x
so childish
paul would you like to let the site no exactly what i pm you instead of trying to make me out the bad one. i told you your poetry was lovely .but everytime you read a blog its a bit much poetry and also i apoligised you were very rude to me.please if you are going to let everyone know please also give them the facts and also the other two ladies that were in the same frame of mind as myself wasnt named, iam not getting into a childish argument with you.
OH MY GOD!
Seriously??
Paul, please don't listen to them. After all, if you blog, reading it is not MANDATORY!!!
I despise bullies, and people who force their opinions onto others.
I do understand if you feel like you can't be doing with an additional fight, but please reconsider. I thought your poetry was great, if you blog more I will choose to read it. Others do not have to. Its also not acceptable that you have removed your previous poems.
I am surprised at this, and saddened.
People ruin everything.
Response to babscatt
I did not reply rudle to you,as that is not my nature,I simply pointed out,that just because blogs are there,they dont have to be read,there are scores I never even glance at...
The first two who had castegated me in open chat were sangelapatt and johanne.
I answered johannes pm when she pm'd me to say it really was none of her business what people posted in their blogs,this was after I deleted my blogs.
And I put sangelapatt on ignore in the chat rather than having to read any more of her comments.
Thats all I have to say on the matter,as taking it further I agree is infantile... I have enough to tend with being terminal and living alone.
COPY OF 3 P.M's....
From: babscatt
To: yorkypaul
Subject: Re: dont take offence.
Date: Tue, 02/12/2008 - 16:44
> > please paul dont take offence your poetry is lovely,but i think 8 poems in one day is a bit to much, a little less would be apppreciated. thanks, sorry.
> I write when my heart feels like it,somedays 8 then maybe none for 3 months,sometimes 50,then none a year.
> Just cos they are there you dont have to read them...OK
>
> Paul
>
>really sorry but know need to be rude.
Paul dont you dare leave or
Paul dont you dare leave or stop your poetry as it was you that inspired me to have confiedence in even writing one and it felt good getting my feelings flowing how i truely felt
PLEASE PLEASE !!! DONT STOP !!!
just ignore the comments as i love reading your poetry
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
lell xxxx
How sad this situation has become
Hi Paul,
Just to say your poems are wonderful, but I dont understand why youve taken them off, people dont have to read them if they dont want to.
The site is here for everybody to use, and this should be the case.
Hope you reconsider.
Take care
Sue.
Paul - this can be resolved - please reconsider and stay!
I like your poems and want to read them - perhaps you could have one of your blogs for your poems and add new ones to them as and when they are ready to be 'published' - just an idea. Please dont take offence at what has been said. One of the big problems with a website is that we cannot 'hear' peoples tones of voice in their writing - either in blogs and responses and especially in the chatroom - and it can be easy to misenterperate what someone is saying and HOW they are saying it. I dont think Barbaracatt would be deliberatley rude (having met her) I am sure it has been a misunderstanding. Poetry is a brilliant release and way for us to 'sort our thoughts out' and I definately think that you have talent so PLeeeeaaassse dont stop. Look at how many people add comments and enjoy reading them! All the best Yorkie, Love Jools x x
poems
Please paul dont leave , you have so much to give by writing your poetry. It is not many people that can express themselves by writing poetry...and also i looked forward to talking to you in the chat room...bless
Too Touchy
Paul,
We are all entitled to our own opinions, we didnt ask you to remove the bloggs you chose to do that. As you pointed out I did write to you and tell you to do what you wanted and tried to build bridges but you didnt reply and chose to ignore me blatently in the chat rooms, not very grown up!!!!! Seems to me, you are far too touchy and oversensitive, myself and the other girls that you have named and supposedly shamed are really nice people and no way bullies!!!!!!!
Johanne
Keep on blogging
Paul, Don't let people force you to give up your blog or to write your poems. It seems that many people want to read your musings and get comfort from them. Those that do not wish to read them should simply do just that ie not read them and certainly not harangue you ( think there's a spelling error there).
Take care,
Jazzcatxx
Time for some Thick Skin?
Cancer in itself obviously makes folk emotional and hugely sensitive to the comments of others. I know that I'm more likely to offer a knee-jerk reaction to often quiet innocent things that others might say or do. We all need to take a deep breath here and remind ourselves as to why we're on this site in the first place. Personally, I think we should be able to post as much or as little of what works for us - if it strikes a chord then others will read and respond accordingly. From the overwhelmingly positive posts this is what has been happening here. However, with 4000+ it's inevitable that there will be differences of opinion (which is all this seems to be).
Speaking as someone who has made their living for 12 years purely out of children's poetry, I think that a poetry corner is a great idea. So, come on folks let's go with the flow .... creative or otherwise. We all have our own way of dealing with this crappy disease. We should joke, sing, write poetry or do whatever rocks our respective boats! (Personally I'd like a rude jokes corner - of course, I don't know any/many myself??!! Will have to ask Jools)
Poems
Paul,
Please don't leave the site I love reading your blogs and poems, you sound like a wonderful person with a great big heart.
I am sure no-one on the site meant to upset you, it makes me sad that you feel this way when we are all here to support each other.
Somedays in our situations we are very sensitive, another day you may have been able to respond to comments with humour like
' I may be famous when my book gets published and you wont be moaning then, my blogs could be worth a fortune in 50 years!!!'
and the outcome would have been different.
I wanted to print your poems but can't find them now.
I even downloaded your Christmas animals video for my partners daughter who is 12.
Here's to some more poems from the heart please!!!
Love
Jo x
Well thats blown my best laid plan!!
Hi Paul
Want to echo others, this site is hear for us all and provided we are not rude or offensive we can put what we want on our blogs, I'm up for a poetry corner, and a rude joke corner - I don't know any either!
But I'm sorry to say you have ruined my plan. I logged on this morning when I should have been getting ready for work and starting reading, there were lots from you and I opened them all but didn't have time to read them all - I was really really late. I was saving them for later ... like now when I have time to read them and you've deleted them!
Keep writing, or is it composting? Meant composing!
Love Carol x
your stories
My Dear Paul, please keep blogging your heart lifting stories, I don't always read all of your poems but I have enjoyed a lot of them. We all at times feel as if the whole world is against us, but it isn't, I promise you. I've also loved talking to you in the chat room, you make me feel happy, you make me laugh. I do hope that all the positive comments that have been sent to you will confirm all I'm saying to you. God Bless. Love lindaj
PLEASE PLEASE!
Hi Paul - Oh please, please, don't stop putting your poems in - I LOVE 'EM!! If someone doesn't want to read them, then they need not! I will always read them, as I love poetry anyway - I did suggest a few weeks ago to James-admin that they look into opening a Poets Corner for us, so maybe it will materialise soon. with lotsa love kate xxxxxxxxxxx
Unfortunate
Paul,
Please know that I enjoy your company a great deal. I'm saddened that people took you on in the chat room. Had I been there as well, I wouldn't have tolerated it. I understand you feel attacked and criticized and I don't presume to know the details on either side. But I for one would miss you terribly. I do wish however, that people would refrain from criticizing people's blogs. If they don't like them, they don't have to read them. They can move on to a blog they prefer. Like TV, change the channel. It needs to be a place where we can freely express ourselves with out worry. Hang in buddy. Best, Lori
paulyyyyyyyyyyy i miss you
paulyyyyyyyyyyy i miss you so much on line . as you know i been bullyed on here to by the some ones and you was in when i was being bully to so i happy to name one of them sanglepatt . some on here think it there chat room and if you say any think your wroung well it not there chat room it every ones . paul then bad ones need to be kicked off i had 4 weeks of it and i had bad pm and emils teell thomas i back you all the ways . some on here a not nice at all . paul stand up and kick bullys off
Storm in a Teacup?
Come on folks. Let's not turn this into a supposed 'name & shame' board. You're all lovely, but this whole thing is getting a bit out of proportion. I think we run the risk of alienating those in need of support with such infighting. Tis not dignified - or is it just me? Feel free to grumble at me as, to my mind, any odd altercation on here couldn't even begin to scratch the surface of such a painful period in my own life. I won't be 'leaving' this board for anyone - unless Cousin Cancer requires otherwise!
I just think this whole post is so very, very SAD and runs the risk of making us look ridiculous.
Paul doesn't annoy me
I dont want to get into any arguements but i completely agree with pusspins... we are all different on here but we are entitled to write what we like, I thought that was what a blog was for and we don't have to read and we dont have to chat. If I dont like the chat I turn it off! and I can choose what I read. Personally I like what Paul writes and he cheers me up no end in the chat room so please Paul dont leave us, there are a lot of us who would miss you..even though I dont always understand your jokes!!
A real shame
Hi everyone.
Firstly, I'd like to say that I'm very saddened that Paul has decided to delete his excellent poetry blogs. They evidently gave a lot of us a great deal of pleasure, and I count myself among that number.
Secondly, I'd like to point out that blogging is a creative outlet. Whether you wish to write about what you had for breakfast or paradox and magical realism in Argentinean literature, then we're very happy to provide a platform for you to express yourself (provided you do so within our community guidelines). As so many of you have pointed out, if you do not wish to read blogs that contain poetry, then you are under no obligation whatsoever to click through to them.
Another excellent point that many of you raise is that it is very important to understand when communicating on the internet that it is often very easy to misinterpret comments made in textual form. While it is completely understandable that emotions run high on this site, we ask that - if you are feeling angry, frustrated or upset - you take a minute to gather your thoughts before you post anything that you may later regret or remove content from the site that others may benefit from.
We are currently developing a 'groups' product that will enable you to communicate with others on the site who share a common interest (for instance, poetry, jokes, breakfast...) Hopefully, this will help to separate out content that does not directly relate to cancer, and will give you all another way to connect with people like you. However, this will not replace blogs, and I would hate to think that any of you would ever be reluctant to use your blog for expressing their thougths and feelings in a creative medium.
Paul, as I mentioned in a comment on one of your previous blogs, I very much hope that you will continue to delight us with your poetic talent.
Let's draw the line under this topic here! ;)
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James
Storm in a Teacup
I agree with you Poet but how many more 'Storms in our Teacups' do we need here! before this all stops!
This whole thing is shameful! Pauls feelings have been hurt soooooo much,its not the first time this has happened lets just hope its the LAST! and that Paul comes bouncing back, just like Jilly did, im so proud of you Jilly for not allowing those people to dictate to you,im just hoping Paul does the same.
But I have to say I dont think the chatroom will ever be the same again somehow!!!
So cmon Paul get yourself back in the chatroom.
Sue
Totally disappointed
Ok folks..this is getting way off track. Sorry you felt you needed to pull your poetry, that was your choice. It was also your choice to come on here and speak out about a difference in chatroom etiquete that you have shared with other members in chat. This should have been left there.....to take the names of caring compassionate members and drag their good names in the mud like this is a shame and a disgrace. We all have our differences, who dosn't among you. Personally, I would't want to run into any of you in a dark alley, who have treated each other in this manner.
BULLIES/POWER JUNKIES
Hi Paul, I met you a couple of times and have to say found your humour to be wonderful. I cannot believe it, even in cancer chat we have "power junkies". I liked your poetry, but if I didn't I wouldn't read it, simple as that! If someone reads a blog and likes/enjoys the content then its great to tell the person who wrote it of the pleasure they got. If, on the other hand, someone doesn't like or enjoy something that has been contributed then surely silence is golden! This all reienforces the fact that even in cancer chat bullies have to flex their muscles, such a pity. I have observed bullying myself in chat and surely us humans, going through probably one of the most difficult periods of our lives, should refrain from the pecking order of life and go with the flow and stop bullying others. With the type word there is always going to be misinterpretation and misunderstanding and disagreement with opinions. Think again Paul and remember bullies should never win, so come back NOW.
Be Stronger Than, Not Angry At
Just let it go!!!!
For goodness sake everyone, this has just got out of hand and is soooo silly now. What is all this talk about BULLIES?? its just pathetic, none of us are bullies, its should all be about free speech, Paul should write what he wants and anyone who wants to express their opinion should be allowed to do so without all this big uproar and outcry.
Get over it now people and just let it go, I think there are more important things these days for us all to be getting into a state about,
I can hardly believe all this!
I agree with Johanne and Poet - let it go! You're getting yourself (yourselves) het up over something quite trivial compared to our Common Enemy, which we should be fighting against together, not bickering like kids.
Re the poetry - I was a poetry editor for many years and have read all sorts of poetry of varying qualtiy. However good, bad or indifferent a poem is, if it's written from the heart it has something to say. As others have mentioned, don't read it if you don't want to, but don't criticise people for what they choose to post on their blogs. It's a healthy outlet and should offend no-one.
Come on, people, chill out and move on.
Best wishes to ALL - poets and haters of poetry alike.
Shelagh
PS: Good idea Poet40 - a rude joke corner would be ace. Did you hear the one about the cardinal who slipped viagra into the pope's cocoa? No, Neither did I. Sorry!
Closure
Thanks Shelagh!
Can I respectfully request that this blog/post might be removed as it does nothing to serve this site's honourable aim of furthering support for new and existing sufferers - not on account of any one individual post so please don't take offence at this!
I just think it's an unfortunate chapter in the life of this site and sends out entirely the WRONG message to those who might actually be looking for help.
Hi Poet
I agree its doesn't give the best impression especially if we are feeling vulnerable and scared anyway. As a fairly new member, I am now very careful what I respond to and what I put in my blogs, I have had some wonderful support and advice and I'm sure other newbies will get the same. But I haven't yet gone near the chat room cos my typing can be filled with errors, to be honest I don't feel confident of going in..
Best wishes to all
Carol x
so sad
sorry paul you have been so nastily offended please dont let other peoples opinions stop you from amusing the people who wish to read your blogs there have been many on here that didnt interest me so i just moved on to the next one i enjoyed reading your poems many cheered me up you cant please eveyone but please continue to please the ones that like your poems i for one will miss them very much x x x
Thank you.....
Thank you very much for your kind words and support,on the face of it,it looks as if there is much ado about nothing,but on a serious note,the point that is still coming through,is of the nasty elements of chat rooms in general,this one in particular,and I hope the debate has brought realizations.
Since 1990 I have lost count of the scores of chat sites I have joined,I usually leave after maybe a month,as they all follow the same pattern,there are always the clique who want to 'control' who says or who does what,even to whom you are allowed to speak to.
When I joined this site,I thought,my final chat room,we being all joined with a common denominator,it should be a lovely,happy comforting site....within days the usual chat room 'school prefects' raised their heads,saying you cant do this,or that etc...as soon as you stand up to them,their 'clique' closes ranks,although not TOO much is done on screen,the actions are very much in evidence,you can almost 'feel' the orchestrated plans of attack being formed on msn or other messengers,whilst the little 'digs' are on screen,I bet Bill Gates goes to bed each night laughing his head off at the mischief he created with windows messaging,(I'm sure thats a permanent boyish mischief smile he has).
These findings are not from experience by the way,they are from HUNDREDS of emails I received over the years,not only as a chatter,but also when I had a chat site of my own or other times when I have been admin or a moderator,yes, I have been computing since 1984 (before personal computers with windows(P.C's) so I've seen,heard and read most things.
I usually turn the other cheek and ignore cliques etc,but with my health being finality,and determined I was not going to take any more rubbish attitudes,I decided to answer back,I left it as my answers to the OP(original posters),but it seems lots of you have had similar experiences of cliques and bullies and chat room/forum police,that I thought I would sit back and let you all have your says.
I was not going to return to the site but have been told in SCORES and SCORES of emails,the experiences of others being the same,there really cannot be any excuse for it being like this on a site such as this,I even got emails saying the same happened on Macmillan sites too which forced a patient off through intimidation,but I guess,even in serious ill health,human nature shows itself when a cross section of the communities gather and farmyard pecking orders are established.
I will not be returning but I do wish you every happiness,every success with your treatments,if a cure isn't to hand,I wish you a painfree passing for you and your loved ones I wish comforts.
You are in my heart and mind,I will carry on scratching the sites name on my prayer candle hoping the smoking vapours are gathered by angels guiding the medics to find our cures.
God bless you all and Merry Christmas,think positive,its almost a new year.
Paul
FULL STOP please
Thanks for replying Paul
I find this very sad. Very best wishes to you Yorky in your treatment too. It was nice to know you - even if it was for a short time. Jools x
A REAL SHAME
Hi Paul
I understand and respect your decision and wish you all the good luck in the world. I totally concur with everything you have said. I too have been into computers since the heady early 80's so I understand what you mean.
One post suggested removing all comments regarding this topic. Now that's a good idea isn't it, lets censor/remove things we find distasteful, and that suggestion was from a man of words lol! The mind boggles. Next suggestion will be ????????
I do not agree with censorship at any level. If i don't like something I don't look/read it. That isn't complicated is it?
Bye bye Paul, you will be sorely missed by many many people on this site. Meanwhile I, and I know others will stand up to these cliques, how can we do otherwise?
SOOOOOOOOOOO SAD
Hiya Paul,
Thanks for replying.
Im soooo sorry to hear your not coming back, but thats your decision and I resect that, I wish you well for the future, you will be sadly missed for your wise words and sense of humour.
Poet when you suggest removing this blog as 'it does nothing to serve this sites honourable aim etc' dont you think these 'Cliques 'do nothing to serve this sites honourable aim etc' too, because I certainly do.
Like Deirdre says I too dont agree with censorship at any level, if I want to read something I will, if I dont I wont, simple as that, and I too will stand up to these 'Cliques'.
Anyway Paul, im sooo glad I had the chance to meet you and enjoy your words of wisdom and of course your wicked sense of humour.
Take Care Paul I wish you all the best for your future.
Sue xxx
Posted on Prayer Thread
Prayer:
God be in my head, and in my understanding;
God be in my eyes, and in my looking;
God be in my mouth, and in my speaking;
God be in my heart, and in my thinking;
God be at mine end, and at my departing.
John
Last Word
I just think it’s sad that this was such a very public spat. I just hope that those looking for help (particularly new folk) don’t consider such wrangling to be typical of the CB experience and choose to stay away. This would be unforgivable and a kick in the teeth for those who volunteer their time in keeping the site up and running.
This is merely my take on the issue. I'm happy to be considered as wrong.
To consider a request to stop this online brawl somehow as censorship in any from is stretching it a bit. I'm all for freedom of speech - I just think that naming and shaming openly is not a great advert for this site.
POEMS
PAULS BLOG PAULS POEMS HOW ABOUT WE ALL GROW UP AND LEAVE THE GUY BE HIS POEMS ARE BRILLIANT AND ITS NOT FAIR THAT PEOPLE BULLY ARE CASTISE OTHERS SO DROP IT AND PAUL KEEP UP THE AWESOME POETRY MAKES ME SMILE
concur
I totally agree with Tipp here,Paul has decried some of the nicst persons on here.
Paul should do as I did , when I was feeling low I stayed away so my emotions would not be misread.
So as far as im voncerened let this site get back to helping each other instead of hurting each other. I am not oing to take offence at Paul cos I know we all have temperate emotions art times But I will stand p for my fellow helpers on here Like Tipp, sangella, joanne pusspins, bus driver rose mike on bike to name but a few, without them I doubt I would be here today. so thats my piece said lets love one another . Jim
Agree
Thanks Jim. At last, some reason to this whole unfortunate episode!
Get Over it???????
how dare someone even write this sort of comment in someone else's blog!!!! i think the person who wrote that ought to stick to their own blog, and lets not forget that the blogs are for us to write what we want to in, not what people want to hear!!!!!!
Alisonxxxxxxx
errmmmm
Which bit do you mean Alison??? which comment? there are loads!! Its over now sadly Paul has decided to leave. Jools